Donators & Subscriptions (Testers needed too!)

[Baskanavitch]

Originally Posted by voogru

Subscriptions will be going trial by fire. They currently appear to work fine, the donate option has been switched to a subscription.

I was out of town all weekend so I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm willing to test whatever might need testing.

Other than that, I don't have a problem paying a little more. I enjoy the voogru servers and community and don't mind helping offset some of the costs.

[Dustin_53590]

ok, i donated like a week ago, but it was an e-check that wont clear for another couple days or something where do i fit in to this donater/subscription thing?

[voogru]

Originally Posted by Dustin_53590

ok, i donated like a week ago, but it was an e-check that wont clear for another couple days or something where do i fit in to this donater/subscription thing?

You're a donator, once it clears let me know immediately so I can make sure you receive credit as a donator. I've left the old script intact so outstanding payment notifications still get credited.

Originally Posted by Baskanavitch

I was out of town all weekend so I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm willing to test whatever might need testing.

You can just use the subscribe script located where the donate page once was, the main thing I need tested will take a month, I essentially need to make sure that when the subscription rebills each month that the timestamp in my database (which determines when a subscription expires based on last payment) does not expire before the next payment.

The purpose of that mechanic is so that if someone subscribes, and then immediately cancels, they still get their 1 month credit, I can programatically tell when they cancel (and I set a flag when they do cancel) but ultimately they still get their benefits until the expiration date (which currently is 1 month).

[Hurricane]

How can 29 people have already subscribed ??

I mean i cant connect ot the 30 man server. It jsut says YAY !!! SUBSCRUBE!!! ( Not literally)

I would donate but i dought the parents would let me use their cred cards =[

So. Yeah.

That sucks.

I love the 30 man server.

[doomgamer93]

Few questions:

1. Do donators have priority over subscibers, or do subscribers have priority over donators? How does that work?

2. So let's say I choose to subscribe for May; is it just a 4 day subscribtion, or is it still 30?

3. If I subscribe in May, but don't subscribe in June, and subscribe again in July, how much do I pay for July: $5 or $10?

4. It seems that donators still have their party hats; will we be able to keep them? PLEEEAASSEEE!

[voogru]

Originally Posted by Hurricane

How can 29 people have already subscribed ??

I mean i cant connect ot the 30 man server. It jsut says YAY !!! SUBSCRUBE!!! ( Not literally)

I would donate but i dought the parents would let me use their cred cards =[

So. Yeah.

That sucks.

I love the 30 man server.

If the server is full of donators (or subscribers), it will reject the connection, you'll have to go on one of the other 30 man servers.

Originally Posted by doomgamer93

Few questions:

1. Do donators have priority over subscibers, or do subscribers have priority over donators? How does that work?

2. So let's say I choose to subscribe for May; is it just a 4 day subscribtion, or is it still 30?

3. If I subscribe in May, but don't subscribe in June, and subscribe again in July, how much do I pay for July: $5 or $10?

4. It seems that donators still have their party hats; will we be able to keep them? PLEEEAASSEEE!

1. No, donators and subscribers currently have the same priority when obtaining a slot on the server. Donators won't be kicked to make room for subscribers, subscribers won't be kicked to make room for donators.

2. 30 days. It would rebill in 1 month from the time you signed up.

3. If you keep the subscription recurring, it's $10 for the first month, and $5 aftward, if you cancel, you have to pay the $10 to start it again.

4. Donators will be losing the party hats, the party hats will then need to be enabled by the subscriber by using a new console command. (So the subscriber can be without the party hat that gives away his sniper position for example ).

Oh, I forgot to mention, in the next day or so there will be a "teamswap" option for subscribers. It will give a subscriber the ability to switch places with a non-donator/non-subscriber, allowing him to switch teams when the teams are balanced.

[Evilpeяsoи]

I noticed that immunity to auto-balance was a benefit for subscribers on the subscribe page. Is that already/will that be a benefit of donators?

[voogru]

Originally Posted by Evilpeяsoи

I noticed that immunity to auto-balance was a benefit for subscribers on the subscribe page. Is that already/will that be a benefit of donators?

Donators currently have immunity to the team balancer, I don't think I ever advertised this as a donation feature but donators will likely keep it.

[Baskanavitch]

Nice... I kind of suspected there might be an immunity there.

So what are these setinfo lines?

[voogru]

Originally Posted by Baskanavitch

Nice... I kind of suspected there might be an immunity there.

So what are these setinfo lines?

http://forums.voogru.com/team-fortre...rivileges.html
Party hat usage.

Setinfo lines are the fancy text you see when a donator/subscriber connects.

[RavinReverend]

I can understand the added costs and I wuv everybody here (except Chronopolis who cheated on me and broke my little wittle heart), however, maybe come up with some more incentives of donator vs subscription?

You've already given us donators alot of fun stuff. I mean I love the intro message when you log in, the protection against end-game humiliation. Call me a greedy douche all you'd like, but from a previous donator standpoint, why would I want to upgrade to subscription for lolhatz?

I think stressing some other new benefits would help. Immune to auto-balance is nice, especially since I like to play with my butt-buddies... I mean, friends. I don't think the more weighed opinion on map vote would be good, we already have enough problems with people spamming map changes like 2 minutes after a new map just loaded. Here's some ideas I thought of.

- Product placement in game. Examples include:
A) You were killed by Faktor's rocket. Your screen could then display "Ladies why settle for a vibrator when you can have a Pocket Rocket from AdamEveToys.com?" Or if a Scout bats your Heavy to death, you would see "Tickets for World Series Major League Baseball now available from Ticketmaster.com!"

B) When you log in and you see that front page with stats.... maybe you could include some advertising in there, even with audio like "COUPON BUG DOT COM", subscribers would be able to turn this off.

C) Other forms of in-game advertising for non-subscribers. For example, everyone who doesn't subscribe would see "Pepsi Machine" dispensers, exploding corpses that turn into M&Ms instead of bloody body parts, and Pyros that use super soakers with blue flames?

D) Several admins have made promises that if you donate to voogru, maybe now they should start fulfilling their end of the bargain. I know several times that Chronopolis has promised naked pics of myself to those who donate. I know people want to see them and should get their money worth.

[voogru]

Originally Posted by RavinReverend

maybe come up with some more incentives of donator vs subscription?

There will be more incentives for subscribers, the donators are currently getting a deal. I was silly to let features slip to donates that I intended to be for subscribers, the end round uber charge was written for subscribers, but when I tested it I put it on donators, people liked it too much and I'm a sucker

Originally Posted by RavinReverend

why would I want to upgrade to subscription for lolhatz?

To support the community and keep things floating. Subscribers are ensuring we can afford to pay server costs, they will get more nicknacks on the server. Donators may have to fear the nicknacks (say, ubercharge at the end of the round... but subscribers can still kill em )

Originally Posted by RavinReverend

Immune to auto-balance is nice, especially since I like to play with my butt-buddies...

I might change this slightly, to where donators are less likely to be switched, but not immune like they are now, but then I'd be technically taking something away.

Originally Posted by RavinReverend

- Product placement in game. Examples include:

There is nobody that will pay for ingame advertising, if you know of a legitimate company that would be interested in advertising on a game server, you let me know.

Originally Posted by RavinReverend

D) Several admins have made promises that if you donate to voogru, maybe now they should start fulfilling their end of the bargain. I know several times that Chronopolis has promised naked pics of myself to those who donate. I know people want to see them and should get their money worth.

No.

[SoBe Green]

Can we in the future have a way to enable or disable the auto balance immune thing? For the most part I don't mind being auto balanced but there are times when I'm there to play with people I know. If not I'm fine being immune from it but its also nice to fight the stack sometimes too.

[voogru]

Originally Posted by SoBe Green

Can we in the future have a way to enable or disable the auto balance immune thing? For the most part I don't mind being auto balanced but there are times when I'm there to play with people I know. If not I'm fine being immune from it but its also nice to fight the stack sometimes too.

Subscribe and use the upcoming team swap option.

[G1lass]

Forgive my idiocy but I just want to make sure I understand the entire situation here.

-Donator status is retained and unchanged (I only donated to be able to join at will, the other things are simply perks)
-Donator status and Suscriber status are completely different
-Donators get hats