How to make Dodgeball maps!

[voogru]

Originally Posted by Dusty

is the defult file that Voogru gave out setup for arena? becuse i was thinking there might be a way to make a CTF, maby.... first team to get 3 captures wins but also people only get 3 lives or somthing.... it would probly be hard to do but, it might work ?

take note that, right now when theres a dodgeball spawner active in the map, no traditional damage can be done.

[NeoStyle]

Originally Posted by voogru

take note that, right now when theres a dodgeball spawner active in the map, no traditional damage can be done.

Speaking of which, is there a way to make the flare guns not destroy the rockets/nukes? Gets pretty annoying when you have 2 or 3 people who only want to shoot every rocket coming towards them, making a single round drag on 6-10 mins on the speed server. Just a tiny suggestion.

[HoundDawg]

FYI, here's an OpenSource spreadsheet I created and use to determine the optimal delay numbers to use on the spawners:
http://www.dawgpaw.com/files/Dodgeball_Delay_Calcs.ods

[[YourNameHere]]

The link 404'd. Please check it again.

[stephanie]

Seems to work now.

[Space Ghost]

404'd again.

[voogru]

Updated with new FGD file and fixed link.

[HoundDawg]

Originally Posted by voogru

Updated with new FGD file and fixed link.

It doesn't look like anything new recently, correct?

Also, could you remove #4 from your first post, as it's no longer needed.

[The knight]

Voogru how do i put all the dodgeball spawers and stuff and will Source SDK hammer editor work and whats FDG?

[pascal]

eum i have problem whit the fgd and sdk he say the configuratsion info.. for the game you`re to edit is missing

i have put the fgd in sourcesdk\bin\orangebox\bin\dodgeball and it say it ....

[voogru]

Originally Posted by The knight

Voogru how do i put all the dodgeball spawers and stuff and will Source SDK hammer editor work and whats FDG?

You need to put the FGD in the orangebox/bin in your SourceSDK, it's the same place as the tf.fgd

Originally Posted by pascal

eum i have problem whit the fgd and sdk he say the configuratsion info.. for the game you`re to edit is missing

i have put the fgd in sourcesdkbinorangeboxbindodgeball and it say it ....

See above.

Due to some requests, I have a mapper client available that will allow testing of the maps locally with up to 4 players (listenservers only!).

PM me for the details if anyone wishes to use this client.

Note: Only experienced mappers with at least one map previously made will be given access to the client.

[ExileLord]

I figured I'd post some observations I noticed though mapping and playing the game. Most of these should be helpful at some point during mapping if you're using logic and whatnot.

• OnDodgeballSpawned triggers for both regular rockets and nukes while OnDodgeballDestroyed triggers only for regular rockets. Perhaps OnDodgeballDestroyed could be changed to include bother with a new "OnRocketSpawned/Destroyed"?..
• A nuke dealing 0 damage will still blow people around with its explosion. This is somewhat obvious as evidenced by friendly nuke detonations.
• Nukes do not deal traditional damage for whatever reason and will not trigger normal damage events. A func_button's damage event can be triggered by a rocket explosion but not a nuke, even when the rocket's damage is at 0.001 which effectively deals no damage to the player. Nukes also seem to ignore ubercharges although that hardly matters in dodgeball.
• A rocket does not collide with the person that reflects it but it can collide with anyone else. If a player reflects a rocket and teamswaps, the rocket will be unable to hit them since it's their own. Video:

  YouTube - Dodgeball Magic

• fa_dodgeball_rocket and fa_dodgeball_fatboy are the class names for the rockets and nukes respectively
• A kill input on a rocket or nuke will cause it to disappear without exploding. A trigger_multiple with a filter_multi can effectively become a rocket/nuke killing trigger
• Considering that the dodgeballs are based off of the soldier rockets, they likely inherit all of the inputs, outputs, and keyvalues found here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3569419/tf_p...ile_rocket.txt
• I can confirm that kill and ignite work on the dodgeballs. Most others are untested.
• The explode/detonate functions for dodgeballs don't seem to work.
• Glass materials and "invisible" don't seem to block the rockets line of sight. I believe nodraw still blocks the line of sight of the rocket however. This only applies to solid brushes. BlockLOS does not block the rocket's line of sight either.

[Noumenon]

Thanks Exile, this actually helps me a lot.

[Zesty]

The file has 404ed again. I want to try making a map.

[HoundDawg]

I have the latest FGD available, updated with the most recent DB server update:

http://www.dawgpaw.com/files/tf_dodgeball.fgd

Save this file into your SDK directory, which should be somewhere like this (you should see tf.fgd in the same directory):

SteamSteamApps<steam account name>sourcesdkbinorangeboxbin

Then in hammer, go into Tools->Options, and on the "Game Configurations" tab, for the TF2 configuration, add this new file to the "Game Data files:" box.

You should then restart hammer to load in the new file and then the entity will be available.