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Old 02-09-2010, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: Banned by Beatnik, or: why does Voogru hire fail admins?

fpv, there's no need to hide your insanity from the rest of us. Be comfortable with who you are. Here's the unabridged version for those who were unlucky enough to miss it:

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Originally Posted by The epicenter of crazy land
1) In game name: ILUVSTEAKFRIES ------- Steam ID: ( 3523852 )

Cliffs: Auto assigned by Beatnik (while having spent less than a MINUTE in spectator mode waiting to join my friends' team... while the server wasn't even full.... while Beatnik himself idles in spectator mode...)

Full story:

I see my friend (my REAL LIFE FRIEND... something beatnik doesn't have, am I right?) playing on Crazy House. Hey, I'll go join him! I join.. map is downloading. Map finally downloads.. but then the server switches to a new map. Finally, I load up. I'm one of 3 people left in spectator mode (only ~25 people on the server at this point).

I look to see what team my friend is on. Red! So I wait for a chance to join. Mind you, not even a MINUTE passed since I loaded into the server. Also mind you, THE SERVER IS NOT FULL. There are 25 people on the server.

Here comes abusive little Beatnik, taking his frustration out on the internet. AUTO ASSIGNED TO BLUE. Uh, how'd that happen? I retry, rejoin, and find myself on Blue instantly. Then I get kicked. I wasn't sure what was going on.. so I rejoin. Auto assigned again. Beatnik tells me, "Don't do it". Meaning, he is ordering me not to try and play on Red.

At this point, the server STILL IS NOT FULL. 25-26 players. Beatnik himself is taking up a slot in spectator mode. I basically inform him that I'm trying to join a friend. It doesn't register with his neanderthal brain. I tell him he's being a prick and should realize that gaming with buddies is a staple of MULTIPLAYER gaming.

He then decides he doesn't like me and forces my TF2 into a black screen. Wow.

What's the point of auto assigning when: 1) the map just loaded 2) the server isn't full. Anybody?

You know all those stories on the internet about bad abusive admins... and yet, every admin claims to be the best admin in the world that never does any wrong? Yeah, that's Beatnik. Beatnik is one of those mentally ill people in the world that basically won't stop until somebody forceably stops them.

Oh wait.. this is where Beatnik says he banned me for "being called a Prick". Yeah, you might want to look up protected speech, buddy boy. True, these are private servers. But:

1) You do not own these servers, Voogru does.

2) If your conduct was applied to the REAL WORLD, as in, how our society is administered, it would be a step backwards. I hope very much you do not work in public service or manage ANYTHING in real life because as I already mentioned, people like you do a disservice to society.

So, sure. You have "the right" to ban people for whatever reason you want. There obviously isn't a law against it. Is it the right thing to do? Need I even answer that? Oh wait.... I forgot. I'm speaking to somebody who hates his life and job. In his world, the "right thing" is doing whatever makes him feel good, regardless of how it affects everything else.

I used to play on Voogru a ton. Even back in the Natural Selection days. Generally Voogru has great servers, so it is sad indeed to see somebody like Beatnik get rank. I don't care how long he has been playing on Voogru servers. Ranking people up because of time seniority is how you fail "in the real world". You should be giving admin status to verifiably educated intelligent people.

You didn't create this game. You operate A GAME SERVER. Through no formal agreement, developers have come to rely upon private servers to host the player population. Obviously one can find faults with a system like this. You argue that you have the right to do whatever you want. Well, you may have the "right", only because there haven't been any "laws" or rules applied to this area. Is it morally right to "do whatever you want"? No. A brand new player who buys TF2 is going to end up on some private server. Should that player be subject to the whims of a maniacal admin? Of course, there isn't currently a system to report and punish "bad" servers at this point in time.

Does anybody know who Beatnik is? Does he have a degree? Does he have a big family? A good job? Is he an old grumpy man? A respectable member of his local community? Anybody? I pose these questions for any of you other sheep who are about to start running your mouth in blind support of the "Voogru" community. Voogru is generally good, as I've stated. Beatnik is not good for the community. One incident is one too many.

I would ask that I be unbanned by Voogru himself, and that Beatnik's admin status be revoked indefinitely. You have no business managing other people, Beatnik. An equivalent decision in real life would be like... fining somebody for getting the car wet with a squirt gun despite the fact that it's about to rain. Completely illogical.

I know Beatnik won't care about this... as people like him generally aren't "forward looking" folks... but everytime undeserving people like you take advantage of the internet to disrupt other people... there is a consequence in real life. Maybe to the person who caused the problem, maybe to others like him, maybe to him and everybody like him. You are taking advantage of basically the internet "wild wild west" where laws and rules have yet to be applied to keep jerks like you in check. Do you know what happened in the "wild wild west" to people like you? They got destroyed.

After you shrug that off so you can look cool in front of your internet friends, do some thinking about that, champ...
I will agree on one thing - beatnik did make a mistake - he didn't perm ban you for gross incompetence.
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